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#1 Evil Penevil

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:35 AM

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A hero has emerged who, together with his band of merry men and women, may be able to break the Curse of The Avenue.  The Robin Hood Tavern, part of the Retox group,.was jammed with customers when I had a late supper there. on Friday night. 

 

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It's on the second level of The Avenue shopping plaza on 2nd Road in the premises once occupied by failed ventures like Shenanigans, Acorn and most recently, All American Restaurant.

 
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The exciting news is that Bite Me Bistro, formerly on 3rd Road,  has entered into an arrangement with Robin Hood Tavern to prepare and serve it's standard dishes and specials from the new premises. More on that later.

 

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The Robin Hood Tavern had only been open since Dec. 27 and Friday was its Grand Opening.  I wasn't aware of that when I walked in, otherwise I probably wouldn't have gone there that night.  But there weren't any balloons adorning the entrance nor any signs announcing a party.  I thought the place was packed because of a televised sport event or the novelty of a new Retox-associated pub.  I didn't learn about the Grand Opening until I checked the Robin Hood's Web site for a copy of the menu while writing this review.
 
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At 9.30 p.m., I got the last small table for dining.  There were a few open seats at the bar, but that was about it.  The restaurant was full and it isn't a small place.  While The Avenue has proved unlucky for a whole string of businesses and probably three-quarters of the floor space is now empty or under renovation,  The Robin Hood Tavern has every chance of succeeding.  The Retox "brand" is strong and has a lot of  loyal customers.  The second-level location isn't necessarily a major disadvantage as long as customers know about the bar/restaurant and want to go there..  An Oishi branch has prospered for years on the second level of The Avenue because it's popular with Thais and Asian tourists. It's easy to get to The Avenue and there's plenty of parking for those with vehicles.  I doubt the location of The Robin Hood Tavern will deter many Retox fans, although it will prove more difficult to attract walk-ins by customers who've never heard of Retox.
 
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Essentially, TRHT is Retox Game On in a more comfortable and spacious incarnation.  You can sit on chairs at tables to have your meal, rather than on bar stools as at Retox Game On.  For me at least,  that's a big attraction.  I'm not sure what the official policy is on smoking.  I saw no one smoking, nor did I see any ashtrays on tables. The smokers seemed to be gathered around the outside tables.  The Robin Hood claims to have Pattaya's biggest TV screen, but I don't know the details.
 
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I chose the "tender slow cooked rich beef casserole" at 285 baht.  Here I have to note that "casserole," a word borrowed from French, has a different meaning in the U.K, Australia and N. Zealand than in N. America.  I would call what came down in front of me oven-braised beef stew or beef pot pie. If I had tasted a piece of the beef while blindfolded, I would have guessed it was pot roast.  In U.S. and Canadian English, a casserole consists of layers of ingredients baked uncovered in the oven. 
 
 
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Whatever the name, it was very tasty.  There was a lot- and I mean a lot- of chunks of beef that had been slow-cooked until tender but not falling apart.  Same-same with the veggies.  The sauce had been seasoned with thyme and I believe sage. One nice touch was that celery had been added, but late in the cooking process, so that the bits retained their flavor and a bit of crunch. 
 
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However, the puff pastry top wasn't the crown of the dish except in the literal sense.  It was tough and soggy.  That usually happens when rough puff  has been baked ahead and reheated. I took only one bite. The warm bread that came on the side was much better and served admirably to sop up the sauce.
 
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 The menu at TRHT is very close to that at Retox Game On. It's basically British comfort food and "international" dishes like hamburgers, pizza and pasta.
 
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The prices for draft and bottled beer are reasonable- my pint of draft Tiger cost 120 baht,  but cocktails and other fancy drinks seem a bit steep.
 
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  It will be very interesting to see how the Bite Me dishes will be incorporated into the overall menu.  Bite Me offered modern Mediterranean "fusion," with creative takes on old favorites something of a hallmark.  Top quality ingredients prepared and presented skillfully in casual surroundings made one of the best restaurants in Pattaya when the modest prices are taken into consideration. I would really be sad to see Bite Me disappear, or even worse, go downhill.  I just hope it doesn't lose its originality or compromise on quality.
 
By 10.30 p.m., the crowd had thinned a bit, but new customers were arriving as I was leaving.
 
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Bottom line:  I'll be back and if the Bite Me "fusion" is successful, very regularly.
 
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This is view from the area outside the Robin Hood.  Whatever else happens in Pattaya, the cocktail vans always do a brisk trade.

 

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Edited by Evil Penevil, 08 February 2017 - 07:31 AM.

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 03:03 AM

The eggs Royale sound tasty....


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:14 PM

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It's still early days, but Robin Hood continues to pack them in.

 

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At 9.00 p.m. last night,  about 90% of the dining area was full.

 

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I went back to the Robin Hood because a dish on the menu had caught my eye.  I wanted to try the "3 hour slow braised ham hock"  with English mustard mash in a giant Yorkshire pudding for 295 baht.   I was curious to try a ham hock done British style as I usually associate ham hocks with U.S. regional or ethnic-group cooking.

 

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Not only was Robin Hood's version really good, it was one of the biggest single-plate portions I've ever gotten in a Pattaya restaurant. Maybe Little John or Friar Tuck could have polished it off, but not Will Scarlet or Much the Miller's Son.  There was quite literally enough food for two meals.

 

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I'm a fan of big flavors and the Retox group doesn't disappoint in that respect.  The flavors may not be sophisticated, but they are bold. The braised ham hock was not an exception.  Good ham flavor, not too salty or smokey. The red wine gravy added the right accent.  

 

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The mashed potatoes with English mustard were also good, but I would have liked an even more pronounced mustard taste.  I asked the waitress if I could have some extra mustard to put on both the ham and mash, but I don't think she understood and I never got it.

 

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The giant Yorkshire pudding harks back not only to the time of Robin Hood but even earlier.  While the puffy individual-style Yorkshires date from the 1800s, batter and dripping puddings go back many centuries in Britain, probably to Roman times.  The giant Yorkshire that provided the bottom layer for the ham hock is closer to the type of batter pudding Maid Marian would have served to the Merry Men.

 

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I'll definitely order the braised ham hock again, but as a take-away dish.  There's just too much to eat in one sitting, plus the soi dogs will really like the bone.

 

For me, the most interesting thing about  the Robin Hood is that willbe the new home of Bite Me.  While I like the food at Retox/Robin Hood, it falls way short of the masterpieces offered at Bite Me, which, for the price, was the best food in Pattaya. Bite Me became popular quickly with Pattaya visitors and resident ex-pats who know and appreciate truly good food. The difficulty for Bite Me to "fit in" at the Robin Hood Tavern is that most Retox customers use transport cafes and truck stops as their benchmark of culinary excellence.  Nothing wrong with truck stop food; in fact, it can at times be excellent, but it is very, very different to what Bite Me offers.  I think the management will have to figure out a way to make clear the distinction between Robin Hood and Bite Me dishes, otherwise, you risk disappointing one group of diners or the other.  This could be a particularly sore point when it comes to portion size.

 

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 02:22 PM

Isn't there a Robin Hood tavern in Bangkok?  I wonder if it's the same owner.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 02:30 PM

Isn't there a Robin Hood tavern in Bangkok?  I wonder if it's the same owner.

Don't think so. The main owner is a guy called Simon who owns Retox on Soi Lengkee and Retox Game On in Soi Honey before that he was the main shareholder at I-Rovers.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:43 PM

That ham-hock and mash looks great.
After eating such a plate the desire is probably more for a nap than for a go go crawl though :-D

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM

The Avenue is a tough place for whatever reason. I ate at that All American last year and knew then that it's days were numbered.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:14 AM

That ham-hock and mash looks great.
After eating such a plate the desire is probably more for a nap than for a go go crawl though :-D

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I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

I *need* that ham hock in my life.  But then a long nap afterwards.  Perhaps grabbing it at a time that's between lunch and dinner (4ish?) and letting it carry me food-wise for the rest of the day and night.  

 

I'm in town next month.  I'm eating that damn thing.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:19 AM

Don't think so. The main owner is a guy called Simon who owns Retox on Soi Lengkee and Retox Game On in Soi Honey before that he was the main shareholder at I-Rovers.

 

Nope, Simon is involved but the big money is from a silent partner. 

 

Similarly, Bryan of the PA mafia is/was a minor partner in BMB.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:50 AM

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I went to TRHT on Sunday looking to have the once-a-week roast dinner. The inside area was packed full at 2.30 p.m., not a single seat open and people standing with drinks in hand.  But there were plenty of seats outside, probably because of the impending rain.  Although I'm not a big fan of al fresco dining, I was more disappointed to find the roast dinners weren't available that Sunday.  Whether it was due to staff shortages or other hassles, I don't know.
 
In fact, TRHT was using an abbreviated menu with about half of its usual offering:
 
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That's not a bad idea at all when a restaurant is forced for any reason to operate on a limited basis.  There's still plenty of choice, but customers won't have to constantly hear, "No hab" or wait for many minutes before the food arrives on the table.  I had my heart set on a roast dinner and if it hadn't been for the heavy rain, I would have gone elsewhere.
 
I swallowed my disappointment and ordered the cottage pie. 
 
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It was excellent- a generous portion of minced meat topped with mashed potatoes and cheddar cheese.  Three pieces of warm French bread accompanied it.
 
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It was made from quality ingredients cooked properly.
 
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The mince mixture had a good beef-and-vegetable flavor, but was perhaps a bit bland. However, that what the condiment basket is for.  Cottage pie isn't supposed to be a tongue-tingling dish and with Worcestershire sauce or Tabasco, you can add as much zip as you like.  
 
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No complaints on my part and I wouldn't hesitate to order it again.  It 275 baht, it wasn't cheap, but the quality ingredients justified a premium price.
 
I went back again Wednesday night, not so much because I love TRHT, but The Avenue is five minutes from where I live and the Internet was down in my building.  TRHT has free WiFi that's both strong and fast.  The Internet is still down in my building and I'm filing this report from the Robin Hood. It's the WiFi rather than the food that is the immediate draw this time round.
 
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Somewhat to my surprise, it was nearly empty at 8.00 p.m.
 
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I stayed until nearly 1.00 a.m. and there weren't many customers the whole time.  At one point, around 9.30 p.m., I was the ONLY customer.  
 
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Things picked up a smidgen when a group of twelve guys entered a half-hour later.  They were still there when I left, eating and drinking heartily.  Without them, the night would have been a real bust for TRHT.
 
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Every other time I've been to the Robin Hood, it's had plenty of customers and the service staff really had to rush. Such are the vagaries of the bar/restaurant branch in Pattaya.
 
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At least the lack of customers allowed me to get clear pics of the layout of the main inside area.
 
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For my meal, I had the lamb burger for 395 baht.  The longer Robin Hood menu was back on Wednesday.
 
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The burger consisted of a 180-gram patty of Australian lamb, three slices of feta cheese, tomato and lettuce on a sesame bun.
 
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The sides were thick-cut chips (they would be called potato wedges in the U.S.) and coleslaw. The menu said it was mint yogurt slaw, but that wasn't the case.  The mint yogurt sauce came in a separate little dish and the coleslaw was doused   with the usual mayonnaise-based dressing.
 
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It was good, but not the most exciting burger I've had.  The feta cheese and lamb went well together.  I know imported lamb is expensive in Thailand, but 395 baht did seem a bit on the high side for what you got.  
 
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I ordered the bread-and-butter pudding for dessert along with a coffee latte.  
 
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Both were excellent. The bread-and-butter pudding was just like Grandma used to make. 
 
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Plenty of egg/cream mixture and butter and baked perfectly so it got a great topping of caramelized sugar but not too sweet. The cook had been a bit stingy regarding raisins, but so was my Grandma.
 
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The custard sauce was also lovely, smooth, full-flavored and again, not too sweet. The pudding went for a very reasonable 140 baht. I would have liked to have had another portion, but that would have been overindulgence, so I'll post another picture instead.  Less fattening!
 
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Bottom line: So far I've been very happy with the food at the Robin Hood. It's not inexpensive, but the quality is higher than in a lot of places that serve English food.
 
Two other points: 1) I saw no evidence of any Bite Me Bistro dishes on the menu, but I was served Sunday by Apple, who used to work at Bite Me; and 2) smoking is not allowed inside.  Half of the guys in the group of 12 went outside to smoke.  If TRHT had been flexible on smoking, I'm sure they would have allowed them to smoke inside on a night with almost no other customers. 
 
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:05 AM

The chips look good..

Wasn't last weekend the darts tournemount as advertised on the radio..???
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:34 AM

I might pop in there just for the bread and butter pudding. It looks delicious...maybe I can request a heavy dose of raisins, since we've been forewarned.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:22 AM

I like my B&B pudding hot with a crispy top with hot custard poured over it with a portion of ice cream on the side....mmmmmmm
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Posted 13 January 2017 - 07:40 PM

Breakfast is a beloved topic on the Pattaya, but I'm not usually a good source of information as I seldom eat a farang breakfast.  However,  due to the problems with the Internet in my building, I've had more Western breakfasts this week than I would normally have in six months.  Internet connectivity, rather than the food, has been my reason for visiting restaurants in the morning.

 

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Yesterday I had the Sheriff of Nottingham breakfast at TRHT for 179 baht.  

 

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It was a big plate of food and what came down in front of me closely corresponded to the pic in the ad for the Sheriff of Nottingham breakfast.  It included  a cup of coffee or tea and a small glass of orange juice.  I added a watermelon smoothie for 85 baht. According to traditional Chinese medicine, watermelon juice is a cold food that helps dispel the heat of  a tropical climate.  The coldness doesn't have to do with the temperature of the juice, but its position on the yin-yang scale.  The yin of the watermelon juice helps balance the both the yang of the outside heat and humidity and the other components of the breakfast.

 

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Others are more qualified to discuss the details of an English breakfast, so I'll abstain.  It tasted pretty good to me, even though English sausage and tinned beans don't rank among my favorites for breakfast. However, there was no mistaking the ingredients were quality.  The eggs were fried nicely, once over lightly.  The grilled tomato, fried mushroom and potato were also tasty, as was the back bacon, sometimes called Irish bacon in the U.S.

 

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Look at the knife and fork in relation to the size of the plate.  That's a lot of food!  And it wasn't greasy, which is often the case with English fry-ups.

 

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In terms of value-for-money, the quality of ingredients as well as the portion size make the Sheriff's breakfast a reasonable deal.  However, the other Retrox restaurants have similar breakfasts at about 100 baht.  If you add another 61 baht to your breakfast outlay, you can have the buffet at Casa Pascal, without question the best breakfast offer in central Pattaya and just a hop, skip and jump from TRHT.

 

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

Not enough toast!!!


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 12:52 AM

Not enough toast!!!


And you would probably do something perverted such as put the eggs or beans on it.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:00 AM

And you would do something perverted such as put the eggs or beans on it.


Funnily enough it was their inability to do a decent poached egg on toast in Retox that was one reason I stopped going...The other reasons were the price of soda water and the "Yelling" woman manager..

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:27 AM

And you would probably do something perverted such as put the eggs or beans on it.

One for dippy, 2 more to make a bacon, egg and sausage butty with a god drizzle of HP!

If that is perversion, I can live with it!


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Posted 29 January 2017 - 06:02 AM

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I had the Saturday special at TRHT on Jan. 21, which was the same special yesterday: Oven Roasted Fish Fillets,  Mustard Mashed Potatoes served with a White Wine and Pepper Cream Sauce for 225 baht.

 

It didn't look too much different than the pic on the Robin Hood's FB page:

 

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The potatoes didn't have toasted peaks and the plate I got didn't have grape tomatoes,  but otherwise pretty much the same.

 

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It sounded and looked like it could have been Bite Me special, which is the main reason I wanted to try it. It was good, but kind of like a dumbed-down Bite Me dish. Make no mistake, it was good and I had no problem finishing it, but it lacked the "something special" in terms of flavor that was the hallmark of Bite Me specials. The fish was a bit watery, most likely dory.  The mustard mash was fine and the portion size was good in terms of the price.

 

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The night before, on Jan. 20, I'd wanted to try Friday's special, poached chicken breast filled with salmon mousse and served with fondant potatoes.  Unfortunately, it was finished by the time I got there (8.00 p.m.), so I tried the poached egg with back bacon, black pudding and bubble and squeak for 160 baht.  

 

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That definitely wasn't a Bite Me dish, but what the hell, once in a while I have to expand my culinary horizons.

 

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The hollandaise sauce was pretty bad.  If they had just left it off, or served it in a boat on the side, the dish would have been OK.

 

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The egg was poached properly and the bubble and squeak had plenty of flavor.  The black pudding was, well, black pudding. Hollandaise sauce is a bit of a minefield; one wrong step and it blows up.  Even properly made hollandaise is tricky for restaurants because it has to be held at just the right temperature or it coagulates.

 

Also worth noting: the nights TRHT has live music, the volume is too loud.  In the future, I'll avoid eating there on the nights they have music.  To be fair, TRHT is a sports bar, so you have to expect a certain level of noise from the TVs and the music, but it was too much for me. The thing for everyone to keep in mind in that TRHT is primarily a sports bar and pub that serves foods, not just a restaurant.  On the plus side, the rules against smoking inside are strictly enforced.

 

Moreover, TRHT is beginning with an all-you-can-eat Sunday carvery for 395 baht.  The single plates with remain at 199 baht 9plus 30 baht for lamb).  I haven't tried the Sunday roast at TRHT, but some others were critical of its initial offering.

 

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:21 AM

I've just had the carvery there and it was very good. The Retox guys have been doing a carvery at Game On but have moved it to Robin Hood. As well as soup and the carvery it also included sticky toffee pudding for dessert for 395 baht. It's one of the only carveries which offers lamb so wiĺl give places like the Sportsman a run for their money.

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 02:22 PM

Does any place in Pattaya know how to do eggs over easy?


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Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:04 PM

Does any place in Pattaya know how to do eggs over easy?

It's hit or miss.

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 11:02 PM

Was in there a few nights ago and not overly impressed.

Firstly where I was sat I couldn't see any mention of 'specials' and only saw whatever was on the menu to pick from. Rather a limited menu in my mind with a few too many 'standards' on it. Tempted to have a steak but at the price I was concerned whether that would be cooked properly in a pub type environment. Ended up having a lamb burger which was quite good, good chips and well presented. No pics as I don't want to be confused with any food critics.

Intrusive  entertainment with some guy dressed up like Axel Rose on a bender, yet doing soft rock.

Place nearly empty while everywhere nearby was packed!


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#24 Evil Penevil

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 12:39 AM

Don't fire until you see the whites of their eggs!  
 
The Robin Hood Tavern has been offering an American breakfast for about a week now and I tried it a few days ago.  It was the most disappointing meal I've had so far at TRHT.
 
Here's the Robin Hood's FB ad for the breakfast:
 
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and here's what I got  (it included two pieces of toast, coffee or tea and orange juice) for 179 baht :
 
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No sausage link, overcooked eggs,  pseudo pancakes and hash browns, and worst of all, honey instead of maple syrup.   :yikes:  North American pancakes demand maple syrup!
 
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The pancakes were stodgy, almost hard,  like hockey pucks made from flour.  Imagine a short-order cook at a truck stop in Norman, Oklahoma trying to make Yorkshire pudding.  That's how TRHT's pancakes turned out.
 
 
Coarsely diced potatoes are the basis of one style of North American hash browns, but they should be fried with onions and seasoned to some degree.  These weren't.
 
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The bacon was good, though.  No complaints there.
 
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However, I thought it a bit unusual to get one egg sunny side up and the other over lightly.  Both eggs were overcooked, almost to the hard-boiled stage:
 
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I'm thirsty in the morning, so I ordered a blueberry smoothie for 110 baht.  It looked good, but the only taste was sweet, no blueberry or any other flavor.  That surprised me as I've had several watermelon smoothies and they were excellent.
 
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This breakfast was disappointing enough that I would have had a word with a farang manager if I had seen one.  In my experience, it's not worth the time or effort to complain to Thai staff about unacceptable farang food.  I ate what I could- mainly a bacon sandwich- and wrote the rest off to a bad morning for the Robin Hood kitchen.  I've had the English breakfast at the Robin Hood and it was OK.  Maybe an American breakfast was a bow-shot too far?  The best thing about my breakfast that morning was a strong WiFi signal.
 
 

The food was quite good when the Robin Hood opened a month ago, but has unfortunately gone down since then. Inconsistency has always been the hobgoblin of small restaurants in Pattaya.  I'm only guessing, but perhaps there was more involvement/influence from the Bite Me crew in the beginning.

 

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Edited by Evil Penevil, 04 February 2017 - 02:16 AM.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 01:12 AM

Someone needs to inform folks that an 'American' breakfast means a bottomless coffee cup!


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