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#1 jomtienguy

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:40 PM

Man proposes sex to woman. She can accept or refuse. I think most women are simply waiting for this very offer and then can accept or refuse. So what's the big deal if that's all it is? What do you think?


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#2 midlifecrisis

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 09:37 PM

Man proposes sex to woman. She can accept or refuse. I think most women are simply waiting for this very offer and then can accept or refuse. So what's the big deal if that's all it is? What do you think?

 

There was a rape investigation by police that was dropped before. There was pressure years ago by Crowe and Damon for a publication to drop this story.

 

I don't care if a guy asks for sex. Was sex a tool of coercion - you won't work for me or in this town if you don't put out?

 

I don't think it was as simple as just asking for sex. Apparently. like Trump, there is a tape with him admitting to groping. That is sexual assault.

 

He's a pig. He lost his job. The era of the casting couch is dead.


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#3 js007

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:23 AM

It wouldn't be a big deal except that the guy was a powerful producer and he was hitting on all the good looking actresses, many of whom were just starting their careers. They might have felt pressured to say yes or risk losing work. 

 

Anyway, I'm sure he had no money shortage and could have had an entire harem of sugar babies.  Now he's in trouble. 


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#4 midlifecrisis

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:43 AM

It wouldn't be a big deal except that the guy was a powerful producer and he was hitting on all the good looking actresses, many of whom were just starting their careers. They might have felt pressured to say yes or risk losing work. 

 

Anyway, I'm sure he had no money shortage and could have had an entire harem of sugar babies.  Now he's in trouble. 

 

Politically awkward for Democrats, HW raised lots of money for them. They are all scurrying to denounce him now but I haven't heard of many sending the money back. I think Chuck Schumer has given the money to charity.

 

Apparently from the clips I saw on TV today, it was an open joke in Hollywood for a long time. At the 2013 Oscar Nominations show, after announcing the nominees for Best Supporting Actress, Seth MacFarlane said, 

 

"Congratulations to you five ladies never have to pretend to be attracted to Harvey Weinstein".

 

 

Then there was this on 30 Rock:

 

Actress Jenna Maroney (Jane Krakowski) could always be counted on for a random tidbit about her past with celebrities - there were jokes about how she dated O.J. Simpson or was engaged to David Blaine.

 

In a March 2012 episode, Jenna was furious that "Weird Al" Yankovic was parodying one of her songs.

 

Her co-star, Tracy Jordan (Tracy Morgan), tells her that it's a bad idea to mess with Weird Al.

 

"Oh please, I'm not afraid of anyone in show business," Jenna says. "I turned down intercourse with Harvey Weinstein on no less than three occasions. Out of five."

 

A lot of smoke was out there but it was mostly laughed off although I read the HW was pissed and threatening toward Entourage:

 

 

- "Entourage"

The HBO comedy/Hollywood parody had a brief but memorable arc in the mid-2000s with a character named "Harvey Weingard," an over-the-top terrifying producer who was a very loosely veiled version of Weinstein. (The Hollywood Reporter reported that Weinstein was initially not a fan, and told star Kevin Connolly that the producers were "dead" if they mentioned him again.)

On the show, Harvey was portrayed as an extremely influential, verbally abusive power player who threatened to end people's careers if he didn't get his way - he went ballistic on Vince (Adrien Grenier) and the guys when they changed their minds about a movie deal.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 07:57 PM

I didn't want to start a new topic for this and as this topic is about sexual abuse I thought I would add what I just heard.

 

News anchor Shepard Smith of Fox News is not a conservative. He is one of Trump's biggest critics on TV news.

 

Today he had on the attorney general of Pennsylvania to discuss Catholic Church sex abuse. Twice Smith came out and said that if a private corporation did this, they would be sued out of existence. Saying it once was an odd comment. Saying it a second time was full advocasy for destroying a religion.

 

Crazy.


Edited by midlifecrisis, 28 August 2018 - 07:57 PM.

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Posted 29 August 2018 - 02:16 AM

This is interesting

 

What constitutes a commercial sex act?

 

"On Aug. 14, however, a federal judge may have punctured any notion of the legality of the so-called "casting couch" in a a first-of-its-kind decision. U.S. District Court Judge Robert Sweet ruled that Weinstein must face a federal claim of sex trafficking in a lawsuit brought by Kadian Noble, who accuses Weinstein of unwanted sexual conduct after promising the aspiring actress work.

 

"Weinstein is now asking Sweet to certify an immediate appeal to take up the issue of what qualifies as a "commercial sex act" under the Justice for Victims of Trafficking Act of 2015. Weinstein hopes he'll be given permission for such an appeal so as to limit the potential fallout from Sweet's opinion."

 

https://www.hollywoo...sex-act-1137996


Edited by midlifecrisis, 29 August 2018 - 02:17 AM.

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Posted 30 August 2018 - 11:28 AM

 

Politically awkward for Democrats, 

 

... it was an open joke in Hollywood for a long time. 

 

1) In Trump America everything comes back to politics. Abuse of power is respectable and no longer a crime.

 

2) Your words MLC ......... not AT ALL funny. "open secret"?


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 02:16 PM

 

1) In Trump America everything comes back to politics. Abuse of power is respectable and no longer a crime.

 

2) Your words MLC ......... not AT ALL funny. "open secret"?

 

Even comedians made jokes about it so it was not a secret.

 

As to your first point, the casting couch is as old as Hollywood. Women have been fighting sexual harrassment in the workplace for decades. So why just Trump America? He has that one Access Hollywood tape about groping but other than that it seems like his behavior was paid for and consensual. Why not have said in Bill Clinton America? His behavior was far worse. It's because people loved Bill and hate Trump. This has nothing to do with Trump America or Clinton America. Women have been fighting back against this for centuries, often two steps forward and one step back.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 06:49 PM

 

Even comedians made jokes about it so it was not a secret.

 

As to your first point, the casting couch is as old as Hollywood. Women have been fighting sexual harrassment in the workplace for decades. So why just Trump America? He has that one Access Hollywood tape about groping but other than that it seems like his behavior was paid for and consensual. Why not have said in Bill Clinton America? His behavior was far worse. It's because people loved Bill and hate Trump. This has nothing to do with Trump America or Clinton America. Women have been fighting back against this for centuries, often two steps forward and one step back.

 

Your point was not about the history of the casting couch...... it was that there were repercussions for the Democratic party.  Oh, and an open joke/secret is not a secret.

 

Can you tell I'm bored?


Edited by capdagde, 30 August 2018 - 06:50 PM.

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#10 midlifecrisis

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Posted 30 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

 

Your point was not about the history of the casting couch...... it was that there were repercussions for the Democratic party.  Oh, and an open joke/secret is not a secret.

 

Can you tell I'm bored?

 

I can actually relate. Need to get back to packing up my house. Spring will be here before I know it. After a while that gets tedious. Keep on keeping on as they say.

 

And I am not surprised my old brain was off track considering I made the comment you quoted about eleven months ago. Hard enough to remember last week.


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